The companies name is soon changed to Baker Gun and Forging Co. Baker is ill with TB and Ellis brings in Frank A. Burns and they decide to relocate to Batavia, New York. Baker is back in Syracuse as plant superintendant for his brother. McFarland patented trigger-plate action hammer gun called the 'New Baker' and by 1887 W.H. Ellis Baker has a company up in Syracuse called the Syracuse Forging and Gun Co. Baker leaves and forms another gun company with some other members of the Smith family and the Livermores down in Ithaca, New York, using water power from Fall Creek, and making a new Baker designed hammer gun with a conventional top-lever - Ithaca Gun Co. Smith as being the dominant partner as L.C. What Baker guns does that serial number list apply to? Baker was making his trigger-break hammer double and three-barrel guns in Lisle, New York, in 1876 and then Syracuse, New York, by 1877, as W.H.īy 1879 the magazine ads show L.C. In the reference, there is a section marked OBSERVED SPECIMENS OF BAKER SHOTGUNS and couple have the markings BAKER GUN CO but on the frame only, There is mention of a model number (MODEL 1897) and the serial number marked on the trigger guard on one hammer double.
The English maker was named Fredrick Thomas Baker was located at various addresses in London England from 1858 to 1898 and later. Baker & Co who was located at 20 Walton Street Syracuse,NY from 1878 to 1880 Baker Gun & Forging Company who operated as Syracuse Forging & Gun Co from 1878 to 1890 and Baker Gun & Forging from 1890 to 1919.
Of course an English made gun will have English proof marks on the bottom of the barrels.
My reference 'The Breech Loading Shotgun In America, 1860 to 1940' list three makers named Baker, two American and one English. I would really appreciate any info/opinions people can offer. The engravings are strong and don't show any wear. I'm an extreme newbie when it comes to knowledge but the shotgun looks to me to be in really nice condition with no scratches or dings on the stock, forearm or metal. The gentleman I acquired it from had a paper in case stating it was a 'Baker Gold Medallion' but I haven't been able to find any info by doing searches. I'm looking for any info I could get on a Baker Damascus Double Barrel w/ Serial #8XX.
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